Question: In design school, how often did you do group projects? Did you like it? Hate it? Wanted to do it more? Less? Also for group design projects, should instructors assign groups or let students choose their own?
most of the time i really didn't enjoy it. this year i have only done one "group" project and it was with one other person. =)
50/50, I'd say. The problem always came down to priorities. Some didn't prioritize the class the same as others == uneven workload
close to never. I didnt like it to much, we had one class project that was almost a disaster because no one could agree on anything
We did group projects frequently @ PennDesign. Time constraints could be difficult, but the collaborative skills are so important!
We do almost all of our design projects in groups. Some like, some hate, but I think it forces you to get over that; teamwork=good.
A fair few times. I hated it almost every time. Seemed I just got lumbered with all the work and then people got rewarded :/ I once did an animation with 2 other girls. Or rather I did the animating, the compiling and post production. Got no sleep all week. One of them then had the nerve to say she didn't think I was gonna turn up. I was running on fumes and just wanted to punch her
would've been nice,often groups would dissipate,someone would not deliver,stop attending... tandems worked better,groups rarely.
We do quite a lot of group projects. While it can at times be annoying, I think its useful to learn how to work with others.
I did them quite a bit. As long as the instructor had thought through and took the time to prepare the assignment it was good...
our last month was all about group projects, i personally like interacting wit others + converging our styles & working wit someone
The few I did I HATED, but we were forced into groups so there was lots of clashing. I'd love it if I had chosen collaborators!
not very often but there's always one person that doesn't want to do anything..
I hated them as a student, but took that hatred & made group projects that students loved when I taught. All about assigning roles. Many teachers think group projects = less grading. Done well, they are actually much more work to manage. And they must be managed!
also with group projects more in class time to work on it, so there is less schedule conflicts
@followsprocess That's what I was saying. If the instructors don't think it through properly and try to wing it, it really sucks
1to3 group projects p/year, depending on the class. It's good to have another point of view but it takes a lot of your time.ihateit
when I was lucky enough to get a partner with something to contribute I found the process immensely valuable. usually it was just me doing 3 people's work though
it can be fun to work with others on projects. You learn about others' design styles and learn how to make those work together.
I did two group design projects. A valuable experience, but no guidance from the prof. I wish we had more projects like that.
@Rosger I think that's how most group projects are. No clear expectations. I wish profs would put better guidelines out there.
did a handful of group projects. Some were fun, the others I pretty much did all the work due to being paired with slackers
@AiJahya Yeah. I think some instructors think that group projects = "students should figure guidelines out themselves as a team"
@Rosger in an ideal world, that would work. But when u have 2 weeks to get something printed, "figuring it out" doesn't always work
@Rosger a big part of the group mentality then becomes who is accountable for what? Which means that you design less and argue more
Not very often...I would say most of us preferred to work solo. It really would depend on the dynamic of the group.
I do group projects often at ECU. It's great when ur w/ ppl who wanna excel, otherwise painful! Group work is reality 4 designers.
@followsprocess how do we do that? #design #groupprojects
@angetank Survey students, assign roles, have students write contracts to each other, actively manage teams, etc... #groupprojects
Instructors should always assign groups. Break up the cliques and help students work with different personality types.
Erm... thats a hard one. Instructors picking mixes things up, but can also mean you get the time wasters.
I have had much better luck assigning groups rather then letting them self-select.. There is literature showing that self-selected groups produce higher output in conceptual, and assigned groups excel in production.
I think that the instructor should assign, weighing relative strengths & social. Better chance 4 students to help each other grow.
teacher should chose, you have to learn to work with different teams, like in real life
RT One of my favorite things about teaching is helping to create creators. #teach
Assign groups. They’ll learn more if they branch out. They’ll become more empathic, less xenophobic. Deterritorialization. Open up. If they choose their own groups they’ll stick with the same safe people, which is stultifying. Jar them out.
I know that when I was a student, I only worked with my friends. Assigning groups takes that out of the equation.
instructors should assign. Part of working in the real world is getting along with people you don't always get to hand pick.
The discussions brings up makes me reconsider grad school and teaching design. Oh to influence young minds... hmm...
@AiJahya Taking the friend thing further, I would even go as far as changing the seating arrangement of the class 3x year or so students get attached to their neighbors, and often rarely engage with others further away unless it's initiated
@Rosger You may make people angry, but you'll have far less cliques. I wish my class knew how to talk to each other in college. It would've made critiques far easier if we had been forced to interact outside of our normal cliques interaction would've been far less pained and we could've been more open about what we thought abt the work presented.
Didn't do any, unfortunately. I wish the program had given us at least 1 opportunity.
as a recent grad, I preferred a fair group when it came to projects. But instructors should really know the students vs slackers.
Assign, and hopefully create a good mix of personalities and skill areas.
@jdotreach Very true. There's always a committed and slacking group. I admit being on both ends, and mixing them helped me.
@garbnzgh totally agree Mark!
@Rosger same here! An even mix of the two totally helps both sides.
90% of the time my students ask me to pick if I give them a choice. I try to mix it up when more than one group project.
@followsprocess I think the biggest thing is having students expect to work in groups from the outset of the course.
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Instructors should assign groups. Learning to work with people that have different perspectives from our own is part of the value.
@followsprocess In addition to those other management tactics, of course.
student's choice. we're past the point of being the last kid left in gym class, and we know what people we can work with the best.
choose them. I think when prof. choose its easy to blame others for a lackluster project.however Group work=drama
Choose their own all the way!
teachers should pick. i remember being friends with ppl who i thought weren't great designers, it was always pressure to be in the group with them because we were friends.... :( although i had no desire to work with them on actual school work
I think by assigning groups you introduce the unfamiliar to the student; something they will undoubtedly face after graduating.
@ntmcmillan I think that's a great point. I still have seniors complain about it and we owe them a honest real world experience.
We didn't have a group project until our senior year, and it was a massive project. The instructor chose the groups, but our activities and output was self-directed. It was beneficial to work in a group but it was challenging to say the least. Every group in our class had one weak member (and from what I'm told, this is typical even in non-design situations). I would like to work in groups more because I think it's great preparation for the working world to come after school. However, there needs to be a system in place that holds all members accountable equally.
I've learned that some kinds of projects, (campaigns or interaction + dev) are only possible w groups. Need time + multiple skills. Group projects are most interesting when the members of the group bring different skills and interests. Less valuable otherwise.
always assign random groups. If anything it teaches how to work together with diverse people. It's the most realistic.
I have never been in a group project in my design courses since I have started college. I wish we would try at least one; everyone in my program has a brilliant mind, and it would be interesting to see what came out of two or more minds coming together and creating something.